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Back Catalog On Vinyl, Will Universal Do It?

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seeing as vinyl is back in fashion again, anyone think universal with put the back catalog on vinyl?

 

avalanche routinely fetches $100+ on ebay, and vancouver's initial orders sold out within the first week, it seems like there is a demand.

 

imagine BM and AOB on vinyl, considering matt and warne both seem to be audiophiles it would be very interesting to hear those albums.

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sodamntired

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do you guys all have record players? i don't have one yet i see a small but rising trend in vinyls. i don't get it.

it's the last conceited, better than you, thing for music lovers.

"it's good, but, it sounds much better on vinyl"

yeah, it kind of doesn't. but it is kind of cool having anything on vinyl.

i like what a former boss at the used cd store said once.

"cds are cold, but vinyl is warm."

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Crusader said:

do you guys all have record players? i don't have one yet i see a small but rising trend in vinyls. i don't get it.

yes, we have two in my house, if you really are interested you can get one for cheap that has a usb plug so you can get direct from vinyl onto your computer.

 

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http://www.amazon.com/Ion-TTUSB-Turntable-USB-Record/dp/B000BUEMOO

 

there is the argument to be made that it sounds better, but that has already been touched on. all the vinyl i own are strictly albums i know i can listen to start to finish without skipping a track. in a world where we are wanting things more and more mobile, there is a lot to be said for taking an hour out, and just listening to an album in very high sound resolution. you can't just put it on and zone out because you have to flip the thing over every 3-4 songs, but in that way, it makes you more focused on the music.

 

there is also a strong argument to be made for album art, which has been pushed to the wayside with the digital revolution. a clear example good use of artwork is the latest oasis box set, which included a 24 page book of artwork for the album.

 

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it gives you something nice to look at while listening to the music.

 

some call it pretentious to buy stuff on vinyl now, but i just love the sensation from sitting down and enjoying music for the sake of enjoying music, and i would prefer to do it with the best quality. when you start listening to matt's work you can see how much he and warne put into layering, and you can really start to focus on what is going on in the songs when you sit down and listen to it.

 

whether or not universal/matt will do it, it's something i would love to see happen, i would imagine WLRRR would be very interesting as it was intended to sound like an album made in the 1970's. it seems a lot of acts are re-issuing older stuff along with all of their new releases on vinyl, but the limited market may play a factor in the whole thing.

 

a good read for those interested, it does touch on the loudness war...

http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/c...teningpost_1029

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it's the last conceited, better than you, thing for music lovers.

"it's good, but, it sounds much better on vinyl"

yeah, it kind of doesn't. but it is kind of cool having anything on vinyl.

i like what a former boss at the used cd store said once.

"cds are cold, but vinyl is warm."

 

listen on a good record player and you'll hear the difference. it has nothing to do with conceit. vinyl is richer, deeper and often times, differently mastered. the current trend in music is to set the 'loudness' to max during mastering so music sounds good on mp3 players. however, it makes music sound like shit on decent musical equipment. vinyl has no such effect.

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I love these discussions. I really do. I have a book called "How to Master for Vinyl - A Guide for Studio Engineers". It goes through, at great length, every limitation of vinyl, and how to best get around it, and what horrible things will happen if you don't.

 

It also has a really cool section at the back about how to make a CD sound like vinyl, such that you'll consistently fool anyone in A-B tests. Of course, you have to start with a CD that's been mastered properly, and not a victim of the loudness war. But if you mess with EQing enough (and now there's even software to simulate standing waves at the resonant frequencies of standard tables, like the Technics 1200 ), you can fake people out pretty good.

 

Bottom line, in my opinion as an audio engineer, is that people may like the "sound" of vinyl better, and I personally really do enjoy it too, but there's no way that vinyl has higher FIDELITY than a properly mastered CD. Any time spent mastering for vinyl will prove this.

 

PS. Having said that, my favourite format is SACD, with DVD-A coming a close second. 24/96 RULES!

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