ToadMan Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Some of you people are simply infuriating. I can understand why Matt is mad about the whole thing. I'm going to shot in the dark here: Maybe Matt doesn't want to remove the comments and email link because it destroys the nature of the medium. Maybe he doesn't want to run the blog because regardless of whether or not he posts an email link, somebody will eventually find out his email address and post it all over the internet. At least if he has a public link, then the casual assholes don't spend time searching. This whole debate is just a shit storm. Now if we can stop fucking arguing about his reasons and get back onto the topic of this thread. There are plenty of threads for the purpose of arguing whether or not he was 'right'. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerbronze Posted January 21, 2005 Share Posted January 21, 2005 He only owes 'us' as much as he's willing to give. What I am talking about is not him owing his fans anything, but to continue sharing his perspectives to the public...The public didn't stop him, he stopped himself. Uhhh...yeh, I don't get it. At first you say he owes nothing. And then you say he is obligated to continue sharing his opinions? Which one is it? I definitely take issue with the idea that he is, for some reason, morally obligated to continue his blog. And that last sentence...I totally agree. In fact I said as much, when I suggested that it was 100% his decision how long he wanted to maintain a blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 21, 2005 Author Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) I’ll be straight up with you guys. I’m tired of the opinions of uneducated people. Listen, everyone’s entitled to their opinion, and that’s wonderful and all, but I’m not really up for listening to conservative hacks throw around the same trite information day in and day out when they display an obvious lack of education with regards to US covert and foreign policy, among other things. It’s infuriating. I correspond with a few conservative academics, mostly Americans, and I respect their input because they teach at the university level. But kids who use that tract to push buttons, not interested. I do talks for Amnesty to Canadian University students, and others, about human rights in the context of the current geopolitical climate. I will be doing talks for Get Your Vote On here in BC in March. I do the same for Ceasefire. I’ve even been invited to speak at a handful of American colleges. I get requests from CPAC and political journals for interviews, and the Toronto Star called my blog one of the ten best in the country. If I had no clue what I was talking about, I’d remain a celebrity face on websites, I would not be talking on the behalf of highly reputable organizations or be invited to speak by others. If no one cared what I thought, I would not get the attention that I do. Plain and simple. I would simply be called another uneducated musician and tossed aside. Listen, you can banter as long as you see fit about temper tantrums or whatever you choose. Go nuts. You can paint it all as some tyrannical maneuver to quell those opinions that you feel I can’t abide. But the truth of the matter is that no one that participated made any significant arguments that did anything but take up space. I refuse to humour those that willingly defend the deaths of civilians, because that’s what defending the position of the current US administration means. If people want to dilute that so as to assuage them of any feelings of denial, fine. That’s their business. But I’ll not waste my time on it any longer. If you think that reeling off dick and fart jokes on message boards makes you some sort of giant of wit, I pitty you. If you think that linking to idiotic pictures and engaging in juvenile one one-up-man-ship is a sign of superior intellect, then you’ve got bigger problems than worrying about what’s happening on my website. That said, do me one favour if at all possible - find someone else to waste your time talking about. Better yet, instead of complaining about me or creating message boards for bands that have two songs, go learn something useful. PS: Crusader - please delete this account for me would you? Thanks. Matthew Good, not to attack you, but how did you get to be this educated? This is not an attack, but seriously, I'm assumming you did you're reasearch, watch, read, and follow the news as well. Well what's to stop someone else from doing that? I am not a Conservative, nor do I agree with their policies, but that does not mean I agree with your ideas either. I was not even trying to push your buttons either, I assumed you would never read this even. It is great that you do talks, and try to help peak people's interests in politics. I am not even trying to take away from that, but if you were not famous, some of those opportunities would still be hard to come by. But just because someone does not agree with your positions on the U.S. government, does not mean they do not disagree with the U.S. government themselves. We had a topic about being anti-war on those board recently, about being anti-war. And both sides were represented. Some wars need to be fought, if it was not for the allies in World War Two, how many more Jewish people would have been killed by Adolf Hitler? He managed to murder five million. He also manage to kill another million that were simply against him. Sometimes, there are peaceful means to stop crazed madmen such as Hitler that includes non-violent means. Such as Kruschev, who simply waited out Stalin, and once Stalin was gone, he began trying to show people the truth about Stalin. That could not have happened with Hitler though, he had to be stopped through force. I, however, do agree with some of your stances on the internet, such as some of the comments people here have said about Jennifer Good recently. I truthfully was not intrested in what you had to say recently, but I did think that some of the fans, were blindly taking your side. I felt that people sometime need to remember to view the facts and interpret. Edited January 21, 2005 by Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakesYouAWeapon Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 People disagreeing with your beliefs and insulting your family are totally separate things. Some people do both and that should really go to show how solid ground their argument stands on when you reach that far for a reaction. Also, Matt (the non-good one), not everyone who defended MG blindly took his side or is a kiss-ass. But the man has a point when he says that none of us have walked in his shoes. The amount of hatred he received in his commentary was just baffling and I shudder to think what he received in private communications. Yeah, he may have overreacted from what we can see, but none of us know the whole story or are in a position to criticize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 As per Matthew's request, his account has been deleted. Wow Matt. You were right. It would have been a very bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Forgive the double post but: It seems that people from the Metro are just joining up to try and cause trouble. With the exception of JM and Bizud. Basically, if you don't like it here then don't post. If you're going to be decent then by all means, post away. If you're just going to be an ass, we will ban you. The three strike rule will be lifted for the next few days. If you just post to cause trouble you will be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm701 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 I think Matt can be a bit of a drama whore at times thats way too far, didnt you read the opinion/fact post above you?? we really didnt need the whole reference, and if you're gonna use the drama queen refernce like i think you were trying to, just put it in quotations, makes it simpler for the rest of us, and it shows it as an opinion and yasa, i have to disagree with you a bit, although i can see perfectly well where you are coming from, i still cant accept it wholeheartedly... i mean, if you had a blog and posted on your site and you just continually day after day hads to read the same stupid insults ('fart jokes' i believe Matt called them) wouldn't you close it too?? he's got a lot of stuff going on in his life and he shouldn't have to listne to the putred smelly garbage that some people come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 I think Matt can be a bit of a drama whore at timesthats way too far, didnt you read the opinion/fact post above you?? Some of you need to come to the Metro and start a 'How has Matt been a drama queen?' thread. Honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Let's ease up on the personal attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 If someone was homosexual, I could say they're gay without it being a personal attack. I think this applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm701 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 no you're not gay isn't politically correct, therefore it would be a personal attack thats like saying calling a black person a ******** isn't a personal attack seriously man, c'mon think before you type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Well then. I guess you could be right about that but it's all a matter of opinion. I'm going to lock this thread now before people start to actually attack MG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...